Wednesday, February 4, 2009

Origin of CKP Community

Chandraseniya Kayastha Prabhu (CKP) (Marathi: चांद्रसेनीय कायस्थ प्रभू) is the name of an social group from India. Technically, it is a sub caste of the Kshatriya caste.

Members of this community are mostly found in certain parts of Maharashtra in India. They are said to be one of the designated "brave helpers of Maharashtra" as proclaimed by Shivaji, the founder of the Maratha empire in his "Mala Ek Swapna Ahe" speech. Their origins are known to be in some of the most urban places in India including Mumbai, Thane, Nagpur, Pune, Kalyan, Nashik and some parts of the state Madhya Pradesh. Several forts controlled by these people have been discovered. This community is found mainly in old Kolaba District (now Raigad and Ratnagiri) and in Mumbai and Thane.

The community is also one of the small number who can be considered at par with Brahmins as they have been given the right to perform of Vedic rituals as priests. Roots of this community lie in Kashmir wherein their current location is a result of downfall of various kingdoms which were ruled or were resided in by the community's families (7th-8th Century A.D.) The last known migration was in 1305 A.D. wherein 42 families finally arrived in Maharashtra.

The presence of the CKP community was coveted by kingdoms as citizens or immigrants within India.

Common last names are Thakre (Thackeray), Chitre,Bendre, Gadkari, Karnik,Karkhanis,Khale, Deshmukh,Chitnis,Kulkarni,Sule, Dighe, Pradhan, Gupte, Tamhane, Likhite, Raje, Bhise, Mokashi, Deshpande,Palkar, Tipnis and Nachane.

In actuality there are only 42 original last names that can be linked to the community which derive from the last surviving families that migrated to Maharashtra in 1305 A.D. The remaining surnames are derived from the 42 original last names and there is a possibility that there may have been other original last names but were lost as the families died.

The word 'Chandraseniya' by some historians is ascribed to the original home of the community in the valley of Chenab in Kashmir a river also known as Chandra in Sanskrit. It is said that the word 'seniya' is corruption of Sanskrit 'shreni' meaning a group of people. Thus the term chandraseniya literally means the people of chandra or chenab.

The community still exists, and is one of the most charitable organizations in India's National Database of Archives. Recently, a community leader donated over $ 1 million for the Hurricane Katrina relief

Descendants of King Chandrasen, his son Kayastha and Kayastha's son Somraj ruled Kashmir & most of central India. For people these kings were nice & next to god and hence were called as Prabhu. Chandrasen, son of great King Sahastrararjun, was killed by Parshuram (The great warrior, in order to fulfill his wish to kill every Kshtriya on earth). Chandrasen's pregnant wife Ganga / Kamala took asylum with Dalabhya mooni.

Parshuram demanded mooni to hand over Ganga, but the mooni very wisely asked him to spare this pregnant women. Parshuram agreed to Mooni's request and blessed her that the child born from her ' KAYA " would be called KAYASTHA.

Parshuram said as his father's kingdom has been destroyed; he and his ascendant would live with the help of sword and ink (Asijivi/Masijivi).

This is a mythological story but all agree in saying that it means the descendents of the king Chandrasen who was the Kshatriya (warrior by profession) king, the son of Sahastrararjun of the Haiyaya family.

Another point is tribes of kaya province are Kayastha. The province kaya means Ayodhaya. According to Mr. H.S.Wilson (1819) Kayastha means the Supreme Being, the writer caste born of Kshatriya father and Shudra mother.

In the 7th and 8th century, Kayasthas were in Kashmir and later they shifted from Kashmir to northern India and madhya bharat. The word Prabhu means supreme or powerful.

As we read the Origin of CKP's is from Kashmir and North India. The Pandavas , Kauravas, Gupt Vansh are all Chandravanshis. Sometime during the advent of Budhism, the last CKP kingdom was lost and the community moved to Mandugadh where they held important positions in the court of the Parmars.

After Mandugadh fell to Allaudin Khilji, the Prabhus fled from Mandu. They went into Gujarat and they via sea landed in the Konkan strip where they made their homes. Totally 42 families came to Maharashtra in 1305.

In Maharashtra they were successful but faced lot problems from Brahmin Community, especially the Kokanastha Brahmins. Between 1400 and 1900 Brahmin's layed Gramanyas i.e. Boycott on them. Each time the CKP families got various proofs of they being Prabhu's, including letter from Shankaracharya.

The most famous example is when Mr.Balaji Avji Chitnis wanted to perform the Thread ceremony ( Munj ) on his son. Brahmins did not allow him saying " Prabhu's are not Brahmins and are from lower caste, hence thread ceremony cannot be performed on them". Mr.Chitnis got letter from then Shankarachaya Vidhanrusingha Bharati from Karvir Peeth, in year 1913, which said "Prabhu's are Rajanya Kshatriyas (Royal warriors)". Only Rajanya Kshatriyas (warrior by profession ) are allowed to do thread ceremony, so though Maratha's are Kshatriyas thread ceremony is not performed on them. Only exceptions were Bhonsale's who were decedents of Sisodia Royal family of Rajasthan. The Letter written by Shankaracharya can be found in office of Bombay Gazzette.

One interesting point came to me that, our Gotra is nothing but the main originator man. All were Rushi's or Sadhus if you add Charya to each gotra you get the Rushi's name.

Sr. # Surname Sub-surnames Gotra Family God Ancestor Remarks

1 Bendre: Durve, Khalapurkar, Gorehekar, Kulkarni, Panvelkar, Siddheshwarpurkar Maitraya Ekveera, Khenderao, Bhairav Vinayakdev Ganesh Durve From Beedar village hence Bendre

2 Gupte: Garude, Bahire, Ambegaonkar, Deshpande, Kharsikar,Penkar Ghardekar,Mokashi Vangikar, Purandare, vadvathkar, Angre, Kulkarni, Mokashi, Natekar, Medhekar Kasshap Bapdev, Khenderao, Bahiroba, Ekveera Jagganath Vasudev Gupte Because of political reason remained underground hence Gupte

3 Badhire: Karkhanis, Chitnis, Dalvi, Nachane, Nadkar, Palikar Kasshap Bapdev, Khenderao, Bahiroba, Ekveera Shulpani Bhairavnath from vardhivardhan i.e. main kul

4 Garude: Deshmukh, Kulkarni, Cheulkar Kasshap Bapdev, Khenderao, Bahiroba, Ekveera Jagganath Had eagle on their flag hence Garude

5 Dalvi: Donde, Dalsen, Mathure Bhrugva Amba, Nimba, Ekvera, Khandoba, Vhagrambari, Singhabari Mahinath Laxmiday Dalvi Dalpati or Senapati hence Dalvi

6 Nachane: Mathure, Nagle, Nadkar, Potnis, Karkhanis, Kulkarni, Mahadkar Bhrugva Amba, Nimba, Ekvera, Khandoba, Vhagrambari, Singhabari Veersen Chandrahas Nadkar From Bundelkhnad's state Nagode

7 Kamathe: Kamte, Karkhanis, Kale, Palkar, Vasaikar Krupa Mahalaxmi, Mahakali, Saraswati, Ekvera, Khanderao, Guraling Shivram Mahadev Khamte

8 Dighe: Dixit Deshpande, Urvekar, Mudekar, Kondukar, Kathewad, Diwanji, Dharkar, Sindkar, Ambedkar, Panshetkar, Dasokar Mugaonkar, kadvelkar, Saikar Vivsvikar etc. Kripacharya Shreejannani Gopal Pabhuhari Ramchandra Dixit Kulpursh took yagna Diksha hence Dixit

9 Gadkari: Gadekar, Badlapurkar, Vakaskar, Ghosalkar Raibhya Mahalaxmi Bahuvijay Gopaldev Gadkari

10 Ravara: Raghave, Raivar, Rairao Raibhya Mahakali

11 Raje, Kshipre: Shatriya, Raje, Raorao, Chitnis, Gwalerkar, Kinavlikar, Yudhvarkar Raibhya, Dalabhya Aekvira Dhayaji Gopalji Shipre, Lakshmidev Govindnath Raje Residents of Shipra lake edge

12 Shetye: Shetye Devla Aekvira Baldevji Sudas Shetye From the word 'Shresta' (Great) to Shet, further to Shetye

13 Jaywant: Jaywant Agastha Surya Krupashankar, Neelkant, Jaywant From Jaypal to Jaywant

14 Shringarpure: Tungare, Rajapurkar, Mahadkar, Enamdar, Patil, Godgaonkar, Fadnis, Tipnis, Veerkar, Durgwadkar, Deshpande, Mulherkar, Kochkar, Kulkarni, Karkanis Adhikari, Yesvirkar Agastha Surya Kamnath Gangadhar Tungare, Bagirth, Trimkanath Shengre The Authority of Shringivirpur village hence Shringarpure

15 Javale: Javalkar Agastha Surya Mahasen Rudrasen Javale Residents of Javale territory hence the surname Javale

16 Karnik: Karnataki, Karnati, Parasnis, Tornekar, Cheulkar, Mahadkar, Bormadkar, Ashikar, Ahmedabadwale Bhargav Surya Gangadhar Bheravnath Karnik Shrikaran- Writers

17 Pradhan: Nagothanekar, Deshpande, Chitnis, Kharkar, Sindkar, Saikar, Salvankar, Tembrajkar, Talekar, Kapkar, Badhanakar, Jhbulpadkar, Pehedlikar Bhargav Surya Hirdas Maval Prime Minister of King hence the surname Pradhan

18 Randive: Randip, Kanekar, Talekar, Vatekar, Chandorkar, Vasaikar, Mulki, Vadavkar, Petiwale, Bagwadkar, Sankyayen Surya Kalyandev Vijayshankar Randip Brave in war (ran) hence Randive

19 Sule: Aathonekar, Nadsurkar, Deshmukh, Abangrao, Mahagaonkar, Varsolikar Sankyayen Surya Amarnath Keshavnath Sulhe From Shure to Sule

20 Sathputhe: Sathputhe Sankyayen Surya Rukmdev Balchandra Sathputhe Seven sons i.e. Sathputhe

21 Patne: Patankar, Palwankar, Juthrakar, Karkanis Sankyayen Aekvira, Kanderao, Bapdev Vileshwar Sadanand Patne Residents of Pattan.

22 Tamhane: Tamhane, Tambe, Dakwale, Taskar, Manik, Aandhurkar, Vedsekar, Kihimkar, Palgadkar, Sabnis, Kaoldhare, Pimpledhare, Sachinwale Vashisth Khanderao, Bihiri, Vagjayi, Navlayi, Bapdev Mahadev Baldev Tamhane From North India Travni/Tamhani to Tamhane

23 Fanse/Phanse: Mulshikar, Panvelkar, Kelvekar, Kasgiwale Gautam Khanderao, Aekvira, Bhairav Bhanudas Shumbhdev Fanse From Bhanusurya, Bhanuse to Bhanse further descendants became Fanse

24 Khatik: Khatikar Jamdagni Khanderao, Aekvira, Bhairav Jitvahu Vaikuntnath Sastikar Famous as Khyatik then renamed to Khatik

25 Vaidya: Fadnis, Pavekar, Dhaferkar, Kondgaonkar, Kondvikar, Pathudekar, Sindkar, Harnekar, Poladhpurkar, Deshpande Kaushikh Vishwamitra Jahnayi Kondprabhu Kandhkhorekar, Karmnth Jivandas Vaidya Ancient doctors (Vaidya) hence called as Vaidya

26 Pangu: Pangule, Pangule Pande Kaushikh Vishwamitra Jahnayi Sadashiv Ramakant Pangule ---

27 Korde: Khopkar, Chinchdharkar, Nagarkar, Nadhurkar, Mahadkar Kaushikh Vishwamitra Vyadhreshwari From Vetogi Prabhu Mandhavgada to Sabhajit Krishnadev Physically Strong people called as Korde

28 Likthe: Likthe Gandhmadhan Vyadhreshwari Narayandev Dhvarkanath Likthe Likthe - Writers

29 Vivadhe: Helbhat, Koyile Vyadrapadh Vyadhreshwari Vijayshankar Jivannath Vivadhe Persons who created arguments were Vivadhe

30 Davne: Pagankar, Davne, Pare Pulha Vyadhreshwari Lakshmandev Vishambar Davne Residents of Daman called as Damane later pronounced as Davane

31 Vaghul: Vaghule, Dadal, Dadale Dhandale Sameera Vyadhreshwari Balkrishna Ananthdev Dadale

32 Chitre: Golkar, Golke, Chitnis, Borgaonkar, Pholadhpurkar, Narolikar, Nivadkar Vadgaonkar Shandilya Bhairav Aekvira Bhavani Khanderao Malbap Gulbap Vyadhreswar Shrirangprabhu Mangaldev Bhanu Descendants of Chitrabhanu

33 Mohile: Vakare Aathreya Bhairav Aekvira Narhari Balkrishna Mohile ---

34 Vakare: Vakare Aathreya Bhairav Aekvira Narhari Balkrishna Mohile

35 Muke: Kanakdhand, Dhuru, Dhanu, Kotwal, Deshmukh, Abangrao Naidhrav Bhairav Aekvira Patranath Kanakdhand Narsinhaprabhu Treasurer at the Time of Panipat war

36 Ulukand: Ulukand Gagra Bhairav Aekvira Krishna Dhvarkanath ---

37 Bhise: Bhirvadkar Bhagur Bhairav Aekvira Mr. Mobhise From word Bhayankar

38 Chaubal: Chyavak, Samarth, Parlikar, Chitnis, Thalkar, Cheyulkar Bhardhwaj Bhairav Aekvira A. V. Chaubal Chief Army officer of Chaturang army

39 Thackeray/Thakre: Palkar, Fadnis Bhardhwaj Bhairav Aekvira ---

40 Tivekar: Tilekar, Thilekar Paigya Bhairav Aekvira K. N. Tiveri, G. N. Kekar Resident of Tevar

41 Devpathre: Devpare, Devre, Kekar Paigya Bhairav Aekvira G. N. Kekar Residents of Dev river edge

42 Khale: Poinadkar, Undhirkar, Nagotnekar Paigya Bhairav Aekvira ---

43 Senvi Varnacharya Paigya Bhairav Aekvira From Chief Army Senapati ---

150 comments:

  1. this was a very instructive blog. do you know the kuldaivat of the CKP's i would like to know about the kuldwivat of the ambegaonkar family

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    1. Ekveera Devi in Kuldaivat. Dakshine who went to Dahanu has kuldaivat Mahalakshmi while south side is Kalashri near Roha.

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    2. Hi i want to convert myself to a ckp. How do i go about this. Please reply.

      Thanks And Regards

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    3. You have to be born into the caste.. you can't convert into it..

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    4. You have to be born into the caste.. you can't convert into it..

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    5. I am also a born ckp.From where did u get this information?

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  2. hi,With respect it is quit intersting to know that ckp origin from Sahastrararjun, who was a royal kshatriya of chedi/Haihaya/Kalachuri rajput family.so it seem to be very clear that all ckp ( Chandraseniya Kayastha Prabhu),are rajput from haihaya rajput family, so sir we all are rajput we also perform Munj or janiv as we are royal rajput as it was given,( The most famous example is when Mr.Balaji Avji Chitnis wanted to perform the Thread ceremony ( Munj ) on his son. Brahmins did not allow him saying " Prabhu's are not Brahmins and are from lower caste, hence thread ceremony cannot be performed on them". Mr.Chitnis got letter from then Shankarachaya Vidhanrusingha Bharati from Karvir Peeth, in year 1913, which said "Prabhu's are Rajanya Kshatriyas (Royal warriors)". Only Rajanya Kshatriyas (warrior by profession ) are allowed to do thread ceremony, so though Maratha's are Kshatriyas thread ceremony is not performed on them. Only exceptions were Bhonsale's who were decedents of Sisodia Royal family of Rajasthan. The Letter written by Shankaracharya can be found in office of Bombay Gazzette).so sir i just only want to know that we can also write rajput as our sub cast as our main cast is hindu,but i want to know that is ther any association refering Chandraseniya Kayastha Prabhu "RAJPUT" "Chandraseniya Kayastha prabhu" as"RAJPUT"OF KULCHURI or CHEDI or HAIYAYA RAJPUT DYINESTY. so sir i just wanted to than you..pleas do reply
    sagar
    jklqwe54@gmail.com

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    1. shivaji was not rajput , brahmins opposed shivajis coronation because they were not ready to accept that shivaji was kshatriya kula so shivaji bribed ganga bhatt from varnasi to bring fake evidence that he is from rajput because during that era only rajput were considered as a kshatriya and so shivaji had to use that tag of rajput because of his quest to become know as a kshatriya , it was caste politics of that era .

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    2. Chatrapati Shivaji Maharaj Bribed .....so lame .. please give evidence !

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    3. There was no existence of Rajput by name during the reign of Kalchuri,Chedi or Hayhaya dynasties. They were Chhatriyas. Rajput name comes after Prithviraj Chauhan. Thus CKP are Chhatriya Kayastha and not Rajput Kastha. Although Rajputs are also Chhatriyas.

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    4. chipavan mean arous from chita. Lord Parshuram gave sanjivani to dead bodies of parsian & they become chitpavan.

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  3. With respect to all sir i just want to ask that if we are directly "Descendants" from King Chandrasen who is the son of Sahastrararjun and king sahastrararjun is from Haiheya rajput clan which is a Chandravanshi Kshatriya clan so why we are sub caste of the Kshatriya caste .According to me we are the haiheya rajput and all right to be called as rajput not the sub caste of kshatriya caste. please do reply. and also i want to ask that our gotra is vats as it is found in haiheya rajput as ther are the son of king vats. "PLEASE DO REPLY"
    SAGAR
    jklqwe54@gmail.com

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  4. Sir i just want to ask that if, according to this ,Descendants of King Chandrasen, his son Kayastha and Kayastha's son Somraj ruled Kashmir & most of central India. For people these kings were nice & next to god and hence were called as Prabhu. Chandrasen, son of great King SAHASTRARARJUN, was killed by Parshuram (The great warrior, in order to fulfill his wish to kill every Kshtriya on earth). Chandrasen's pregnant wife Ganga / Kamala took asylum with Dalabhya mooni.

    Parshuram demanded mooni to hand over Ganga, but the mooni very wisely asked him to spare this pregnant women. Parshuram agreed to Mooni's request and blessed her that the child born from her ' KAYA " would be called KAYASTHA.

    Parshuram said as his father's kingdom has been destroyed; he and his ascendant would live with the help of sword and ink (Asijivi/Masijivi).

    This is a mythological story but all agree in saying that it means the descendents of the king Chandrasen who was the Kshatriya (warrior by profession) king, the son of Sahastrararjun of the Haiyaya family. THIS IS CLEAR FROM THIS STATMENT THAT CHENDRASEN IS THE SON OF SAHASTRARARJUN,AND WHEN PARSHURAM ASK THAT THE CHILD BORN FROM PREGNANT WOMEN OF CHENDRASEN THAT THE BOY BORN FROM KAYA WHOULD BE CALL KAYASTHA,AND ASKED THE RISHI THAT THE KINGDOM OF THE CHILDREN WHER DISTROYED "he and his ascendant would live with the help of sword and ink" BUT THE SON OF KAYASTHA SOMRAJ RULED KASMIR AND MANY PART OF CENTRAL INDIA HE ACTED AS A RULER AND PERFORM ACT AS RAJPUT. AND THE SIFTING OF PRABHU "In the 7th and 8th century,"CHENDRASENA RAJPUT FAMILIES" were in Kashmir and later they shifted from Kashmir to northern India and madhya bharat". SO IT SEEM THAT THEY ACTED AS RAJPUT KSHARTIYA OR ROYAL WARRIOR SO IT IS VERY CLEAR THAT CHENDRASEN KAYASTHA PRABHU ARE THE RAJPUT DECENDENT FROM SAHASTRARARJUN WHO IS A HAIHAYA RAJPUT SO CHENDRASEN KAYASTA PRABHU ARE HAIHAYA RAJPUT. A KSHATRIYA CAST OR A RAJPUT CAST.
    SAGAR
    jklqwe54@gmail.com

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  5. @Nikhita
    I am not sure about it... but Ambegaonkar belongs to GOTRA - Kasshap

    So kuldwivat might be amongst following...

    Bapdev, Khenderao, Bahiroba, Ekveera

    Jagganath Vasudev Gupte was the originator of Gupte's & Sub surname are

    Garude, Bahire, "Ambegaonkar", Deshpande, Kharsikar,Penkar Ghardekar,Mokashi Vangikar, Purandare, vadvathkar, Angre, Kulkarni, Mokashi, Natekar, Medhekar.

    This is for your information!!

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    1. Namaskar,Mi Rajendra Sharadchandra Gadkari (APTEKAR-DESHPANDE-GADKARI)our native is village APTE,Taluka MANGAON,( Earlier Known as Kolaba) District-RAIGAD,our kuldevi is KALIKAMATA OF KADAPA (kalkai-bapujibua devsthan)near Mangaon.we are preparing vanshvalli please help us if you have any information regarding family please forward the same to me my E-mail ID is rajegad@yahoo.com and mobile no.+91-9409565139.
      With Best Regards.
      RAJENDRA GADKARI

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    2. Hi Nikhita

      As far as my info. Ambegaonkar surname came from Deshpande. Kuldaivat Janani

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    3. Hi Kedar, Ambegaonkars are Gupte . While they were conferred jahagir of Ambegaon they were called Ambegaonkar.

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    4. Are dalavi surname from village vinhere taluka mahad dist Raighar belongs to maratha cast?

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  6. sandesh panvelkar : some more info....

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  7. I would like to know any info about kuldaiwat of panvelkar family (9967334934)

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  8. shailesh MahadkarMay 5, 2009 at 7:30 AM

    I belong to Mahadkar family of Baroda. It is said that we migrated from Mahad, hence called Mahadkars. We were Karniks before we migrated. Our last forefather is known to be shri Atmaram . He is believed to have lived in Mahad. Can any one throw some light on Karniks of Mahad? I am trying to find my roots.

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    1. hi Shailesh I am Parag Karnik, we are also originated from Mahad now resides at Dombivli my Grand fathers name is Anant Karnik but i know the forefathers as
      Anant Karnik
      Vitthal Karnik
      Kashinath Karnik

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  9. Do u have any information on Dhuru surname origins, we became Kotwal
    our kulaswamini is shri Malhari Martand-khandoba,shri ekvira, shri Vhyagrambhari, shri navlai..our gotre is devalacharya, our mool purush Bahiroba
    Pl reply as we are desperate to find our origins

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  10. nitin
    thank you very much for the information

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  11. can you tol me who is kuldaivat of Bhise

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  12. I am Shrikant Chitnis. Our ancestral village is Nagaon near Alibag and our Kuldevi is Kanhai and Kanha, also known as Dakshin mukhi.at Alibag.
    My query pertains to Kuldevta of my in-laws'. My Late Father in law was Chandrakant Santuram Gupte. There is ancestral 'Deviche Taak' in the house on which there is inscription "Yeshvikarin Prasanna" {Written in Devnagri script.}. I am in search of the temple of Devi Yeshwikarin. In this regard I could so far find out that there is a village "Veshvi" near alibag, and "Yeshvi" near Ratnagiri...but nothing further. Can any one guide me where should I focus my search? None of my Gupte friends/relatives have been able to say.

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  13. Hi,
    Myself Sachin Mohorikar(Pradhan).
    I would like to correct something, dont mind pls.
    Gotra in CKP is NOT Originator man. That is for Brahmins. For CKPs GOTRA = Name of the GURU accepted by the family. Reason is, the "pregnant woman" was saved by Rishi Dalabhya who was a Brahmin. Dalabhya trained Kayastha. So by default all CKPs GOTRA is DALABHYA. Over and above you have specific Guru's as accepted by CKP families who are our GOTRA. I have found an intersted document compiled in 1904 under the guidance of Britishers by a Puneit CKP. This has references dating back to Rugveda etc.. and also latest ones from 1700+ .
    You can also add "Mohorikar" as surname used by some earlier Pradhan's.
    Regards,
    Sachin Mohorikar(Pradhan)

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  14. Gupte clan hails form areas from Baroda and Navsari in gujrat. As rightly said the ambegaonkars are originally gupte. My ancestores came to maharashtra from gujrat. they are guptes belonging to the Sashtikar Gupte and Ambegaokar Gupte.

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  15. I remember my late grand mother mentioning abt us ckps being decendants of chitra-gupta as well....can anyone please tell me how exactly?

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    1. Yeah,you are truely right all the kayasthas are decendants of lord maharaj chitragupt who is also known as dharamraj and caste of all kayastha community is rightly labled as dwij-kshatriya,the word dwij means yagyopavit or janev sanskar...and ancient kayastha were mostly rajanya (warrior by profession) and that's why we all are called DHARAMRAJPUTRAS.....JAI DHARAMRAJPUTRA..

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    5. Hiii everyone

      I am a RAJANYA KAYASTHA From U.P my surname is shrivastava

      Can anybody pls tell me that how CKPs are related to our progenitor maharaja dharamraj chitragupta dev ji

      Eagerly waiting for reply

      Thanks

      Jai dharmaraja

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  16. My self Mrs. Shraddha Bhise
    Any one knows Kulaswamini of Bhise?
    Any other Bhise here Please reply

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  17. can any body enlighten me on the village kharshi and its location etc.
    Uday kharshikar

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  18. gud all my friends i like the way u share your knowledge about our origins god bless u all my friends

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  19. Dr Ajay LikhiteMay 9, 2010 at 5:11 AM

    One of our friend has raised a questeion " How are we related to Chitragupta?"
    पौराणिक मत प्रवाहानुसार चंद्रसेन राजाचा मुलगा " सोमराज". सोमराज चा जन्म त्याच्या मातेच्या कायेतून झाला म्हणून "चांद्रसेनीय कायस्थ". ह्या सोमराज चा विवाह चित्रगुप्ताच्या कन्येशी झाला व त्याला "प्रभू" ही पदवी देण्यात आली , म्हणून "चांद्रसेनीय कायस्थ प्रभू" हे त्याच्या वंशातील लोकांना संबोधण्यात यायला लागले. असा हा चित्रगुप्त शी आपल्या ज्ञातीचा संबंध सांगितला जातो. पण "चित्रगुप्त वंशी कायस्थ" व चांद्रसेनीय कायस्थ हे दोन वेगळे आहेत असा संदर्भ आढळतो.

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  20. Should we all CKPs come together and create a large mind map of our families? I believe this *may* lead to the connections between different CKP families.

    Or otherwise, we can at least hunt for the actual origin of CKPs - known origin as far as possible.

    This will also result is a large database of all CKPs here, and can be useful in many cases. :)

    What you say?

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  21. We are TALEKAR from Karwar, Karnataka ( earlier Bombay Province) belongs to Hindu, Sub Caste ' "PADTI" or "PA DA TI".We speak Konkani. We worship Shiva " Mallikarjun" of Sri Kshetra , Cancon (Kankon), Goa as our Kuldaiwat ( Kuldeva).Any one can tell us What is our Gotra?
    talekarnagesh@rediffmail.com

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  22. Extremelly happy to read this detailed article on CKP origin. Great job done.It is indeed very informative.
    MILIND S. CHITNIS
    JAIPUR , INDIA

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  23. I look forward to meet all Chitnis togather. How is it possible

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    1. If you visit nagaon in navratri especially ashtami or navami you can meet all Chitnis there.
      - Deepti Karnik (Chitnis)

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  24. My late grand father Mahadev Khanderao Chitnis heailed from Nagaon, Alibagh taluk, and later selleled in Indore( Madhya Pradesh). Our kuldevi is Dakshin Mukhi Chinis Devi. I had previlege to vist Kuldevi a couple of times. My dream is to visit Kulvevi every year, especially in Navratri.
    Milind S. Chitnis

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  25. Can anyone help me to get piks of Dahshin Mukhi Chitnis Devi ?
    MILIND S. CHITNIS
    JAIPUR( RAJ.)

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    1. please send mi your email on abapat417@gmail.com

      abhay bapat, nagaon

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    2. There are some pics on this link http://wikimapia.org/19248014/Dakshinabhimukhi-Devi-Temple#/photo/2673895

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  26. My maternal name is Swati Vasant Dhuru from Mumbai. I would like to know my family history.

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  27. Respected Sir .I Ginny Vishwanath Palvankar,Son of Vishwanath Narayanrao Palvankar ,we dont,know our caste gotra.surname which dist,in maharastra belonging so kindly request to u sir pls find out all about palwankar ,& reply me because,our holl father familys.staying in ahmadabad in gujarat they everbody dont,were they both belonging.so kindly request to early reply thank u Ginny palvankar

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  28. Respected Sir .I Ginny Vishwanath Palvankar,Son of Vishwanath Narayanrao Palvankar ,we dont,know our caste gotra.surname which dist,in maharastra belonging so kindly request to u sir pls find out all about palwankar ,& reply me because,our holl father familys.staying in ahmadabad in gujarat they everbody dont,no were they both belonging.so kindly request to early reply thank u Ginny palvankar

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  29. hiGinny said...
    Respected Sir .I Ginny Vishwanath Palvankar,Son of Vishwanath Narayanrao Palvankar ,we dont,know our caste gotra.surname which dist,in maharastra belonging so kindly request to u sir pls find out all about palwankar ,& reply me because,our holl father familys.staying in ahmadabad in gujarat they everbody dont,no were they both belonging.so kindly request to early reply thank u Ginny palvankarpls reply email on;goldpalvankar@ymail.com

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  30. Hi,

    Can you tell me the "Kuldevata" for Thakare family? Kulaswamini is "Aekvira" and "Konzai Devi"..
    I am not aware of the Kuladevta? Can you help!

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  31. Respected Sir .I Paresh krishna nagothanekar,Son of Krishna narayan nagothanekar ,we dont,know our caste,gotra,origin & kuldevi.so kindly request to early reply on my mailID- pareshnagothanekar@gmail.com

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  32. Hello Nitin,
    Can you helpme with Gotra, Kuldevi and Kuldevta of Tipnis. I have heard that Tipnis are from Mahad and Chowkar Tipnis, please let me know if you have any info on the later one.

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  33. ple. tel me kuldevi and gotra of ghosalkar

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  34. our gotra is bhrighu--proud to be a CKP!

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  35. Prasad Pradhan:prapra80@gmail.com:

    Our gotra is Dalabhya and our devi is ekvira. Good to read such a detailed history of our community. Do keep adding to this if any of you have more information.
    Thanks

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  36. Please indicate the location of VETOGI for VYADHRESHWARI DEVI.(KHOPKAR FAMILY)
    KHOPKAR A M.

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  37. Please tell me gotra and kuldevi of Gadkari

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    1. There is a devi at Murud -Janjira although I do not recollect her name. It is Kuldevi of Gadkari. As said it is on a hill now unapproachable due to rock erosion but can be seen from sea front.

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    2. Ekdara Murud
      kulswamini of Bhise

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  38. Nice article !!
    Sunita Gajanan Kulkarni (ckp)

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  39. http://rupalimokashi.wordpress.com/2010/05/04/%E0%A4%96%E0%A4%AE%E0%A4%82%E0%A4%97-%E0%A4%95%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%AF%E0%A4%B8%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%A5%E0%A5%80-%E0%A4%B2%E0%A5%8B%E0%A4%95%E0%A4%B8%E0%A4%A4%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%A4%E0%A4%BE-%E0%A4%9A%E0%A4%A4/
    खास कायस्थी खाद्य परंपरेसाठी
    डॉ. रुपाली मोकाशी

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  40. Query guyz.....

    Gotra means blood line of that particular sage...Now all sages(Almost all) were bramhins while we are khstriyas right...???...So the thing is we cant be the descendants of any sage.We basically just have "adopted" a paricular gotra..to be precise dat is our "KUL"....so basically are we "Gotraless"...??..Plz Comment

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  41. Can any one tell me that whether Kaalimata is kuldaivat of any ckp? one ckp family told us that their kuldaivat is Kaalimata. so we were surprised!

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    1. Yes undoubtedly...

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    2. Yes .our kuldaivat is kalika mata of Kadape nr Indapur.our surname is kulkarni.

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  42. HI FRIENDS,
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  43. vijaykumar pradhan, DombivliDecember 25, 2011 at 11:16 PM

    This is very useful and essential community service. Name of the site also is good.

    Abhi kuchch hatke karate rehna.

    Best wishes.

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  44. NAV VARSH SHOOBH HO !
    C.K.P. CHA BLOG SOONDAR AAHE.
    UDAY SHRIPAD TAMHANEY.
    BHOPAL.

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  45. I am Subhash Shrikrishna Sule, I would like to know about Sule family tree, I am giving my some details below for reference.
    Father - Shrikrishna Mahadev Sule + 2 brothers and 4 sisters,
    G F - Mahadev Vinayak Sule, was working with Bombay Municipal Corporation and residing at Kolshet, Thana.
    As per my knowledge we are from Tale Ghosale village near Roha.
    If anybody knows anything about our family please send the details to my mail id - sulesubhash@gmail.com
    Thanks
    Subhash Sule

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  46. We are TALEKAR from Karwar, Karnataka ( earlier Bombay Province) belongs to Hindu, Sub Caste ' "PADTI" or "PA DA TI". Belongs to Maratha Clans.We speak Konkani. Any one can tell us What is our Gotra?
    nageshtalekar@gmail.com

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  47. My name is Harshal Wangikar...I am CKP. according to list given above Wangikar is not featured in the list of CKPs....although Vangikar is there..is it the same ?? I wanted to have some more knowledge about its roots.
    harshal.wangikar@yahoo.com
    harshal.wangikar001@gmail.com

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  48. hi,
    Plz tell mi gotra n kuldevi of nadkar-kulkarni

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  50. Hi all,
    can anyone share the arati sangraha of Kedar Janani mata

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  51. hi,
    can anyone tell me kuldevi of karnik's---its ekveera or tuljabhavani?

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  52. Pl.tell me kuldevta of Chitre family .if it is Akveeradevi , even KOLI ( fishermen ).They also say Akveeradevi is their Kuldevta. Pl.give me more information .I will be grateful to you .Thanks.

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  53. Pl.reply my above mention question. one of my friend is in love with chitre.parents want to know about his cast .is he CKP / or KOLI ?

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    1. Hi,
      Regret for the delayed response! Ekvira devi is the Kulaswamini of Chitre’s and this surname in majority belongs to CKP's . In my Knowledge there are Brahmins also.

      If you ask me honestly there is no cast to Love..Hence I hope your friend’s parents must be convinced by this time.

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  54. I am sorry, there is no reply from you , WHY ?

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  55. Good info shared. My surname is Daftardar however our original surname is Palkar. We have many taaks at our home but do not know many names of them although we do identify some of them. Can some one shed light upon it what exactly are these taaks how and when and where do these come from.

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  56. my surname is gupte can u please tell us our kuldevi&gotra

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  57. Namaskar,Mi Rajendra Sharadchandra Gadkari (APTEKAR-DESHPANDE-GADKARI)our native is village APTE,Taluka MANGAON,( Earlier Known as Kolaba) District-RAIGAD,our kuldevi is KALIKAMATA OF KADAPA (kalkai-bapujibua devsthan)near Mangaon.we are preparing vanshvalli please help us if you have any information regarding family please forward the same to me my E-mail ID is rajegad@yahoo.com and mobile no.+91-9409565139.
    With Best Regards.
    RAJENDRA GADKARI

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  58. Namaskar, Mi Prashant Vinaykumar Deshmukh. Maze mool gaon Nizampur, Mangaon, Raigad. Krupaya, amchya kutumbacha itihas mahit aslyas sampark karava!

    27, Shivaji Hoousing Society, Senapati Bapat Road, Pune 411 016. prashantpradesh@gmail.com/yahoo.com 09423507492/93.

    Sarva Nizampurkar Deshmukhana hi kakalichi vinanti ahe ki tyani ekada tari bhetis yave!!!!!!!

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  59. Hie can any one tell me some more Information on CkpVAidya

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  60. I am very sorry ,you have not yet reply my query.date of my query is 26 July 2012

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  61. Geographically,western ghats are chandra shreni(range).2.In Andhra Niyogi brahmins are/were administraters.3.Sage yamadagni was an exponent in military science( thats why his son could wage a war with success).4.Nobody worships enemy's mother(here Renuka).5.Society needs all varnas so parshuram's army was asked to take up ksatriya duties,but being brahmins they couldnot leave the vedic rituals so case was taken up with Shankaracharya(s),who gave them this right.6.Prabhutva was also given over the lands of ksatriyas hence prabhu.

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  62. My name is Ram Pradhan. Our native place is Baroda. Our surname has changed over the years from sindkar to Deshpande to Pradhan and yes our gotra is Bhargav. Your blog also says so. Why don't you start a group on Facebook where questions and discussions can happen and all will benifit

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  63. i want to know ckp assosiation or grups in mumbai community i want to conduct a medical health chek up camp for such community

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  64. HELLO.......I AM SATISH KRUSHNARAO BINIWALE,BEHIND LIBRARY,AMRELI ( GUJARAT ) ... M
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  65. Thank you Mr Nilesh Dighe. I bought the book suggested by you from CKP club parla "prabhukuladipika"

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  66. I wonder why CKP isolate themselves from Haihaya Vanshi Kalwar,Jaiswal,Sahu,Sheohare and Dandasena,etc.All Haihaya origin castes are one.Behera Seshadeba,Boudh,Odisha

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    1. Khatri community also claim to be haihaya but these are only claim and one cannot prove it that they are rightly their descendants. Brahmin say their original race was destroyed completely however that is their exaggeration.

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  67. In Facebook their is a group called CKP Kuldevta where you can get little idea of your kuldevta

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  68. Is Tuljabhavani also kuldevta of CKPs?

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  69. what is the kuldevta of Gupte family ?

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  70. Hi can any one tell me the kulaswamini of deshpande and gotra as well

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  72. plzz tell me the caste and gotra of thakare surname...

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  73. hi my name is tejal dalvi. my husband's grandfather was from kokan and our gotra is bhrigu. can anyone plz tell me our kuldevi

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  74. hi i am parag karnik, son of Vidyadhar anant Karnik would like to know our kuldevta we are originally from mahad raigad district can anyone help me on that

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  75. hi my name is Rajesh Bhise n im a ckp...my gotra is brughu n i wanted to know who my kuldevi is...i know its ekvira devi,khenderao,bhiribau but i dont know who the other kuldevi is?? plz could sm1 help me...

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  76. I'm a CKP with "Raje" being my surname.Rajes of some small kingdom named "Sai" .I reside in Thane.Does anyone have ANY information at all about this stuff? Please do share.

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  77. Does any one have information on the "Pradhan"surname.We earlier had d surname "Shillotri" and are from Murud.Now there ain't nobody at Murud .We have all moved up to Mumbai and Pune.I would like to know anything and everything about it.Thank you!

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  78. I am married to a CKP Deshmukh. Their forefathers are basically from Revdanda,Konkan. Gotra is Devalacharya.
    Please confirm the Kuldaivat.

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  79. If we CKP s were born with a dual Varna ..namely Brahman and Kshatriyas..and we were allowed m to perform Munj etc..we must have had a ...Gotra...unless the Chitragupta lineage is much Superior..but also created like the SaptaRishi s...what is the ChitraGupta Gotra "?

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  80. After gangadevi s son Somraj...the only living haihaiya CKP s...we adopted Dalbhya ...then as mentioned by Dr Ajay..Likhite.Chitragupta daughter was married ..to Somraj......any further threads?.....He must have been important for Chitragupta to let his daughter marry The last living male of the Haihaiya Vansh..

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  81. One of the SaptRishi Kashyap and ( Aditi s ...daughter of Prajapati Dash ) son Vivaswaan..the Sun god...had a son Manu the 1st human.....who started the Suryavansh..dynasty called IKshavaku....Later down the line after fighting with Chandravanshi s and Haihaiya s etc ...who seemed to be around so long ago. And later married Chandravanshi princesses....as per khukhrains.org....they seem to have a very detailed info about suryavanshi clans etc

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  82. See also Jatland.com for Haihaiya of the Lunar Dynasty....cannot vouch for the authenticity of both khukhrains or jatland...but if true are impressive

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  83. Navratrichya Shubheccha!
    An exciting news to share during this auspicious season. I would like to present my first novel, RENUKA: THE JOURNEY UNEXPECTED.
    The book is a work of fiction based on the legends of Ekveera; a humble offering to the divine mother.
    Feel free to visit the FB page Dr Anita Gupte for videos and synopsis.
    Website: www.anitagupte.com
    Of further interest to this group: Recipes of delicacies which have found their way into the book invited from all. Laddoos, Gujia (our Kanavle of course!).
    Recipes may be emailed to
    authoranita@anitagupte.com

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  84. Can anyone tell kulswamini of Shringarpure

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  85. Dear Sir, IF some one can help me to get complete detail on cast I will be higly oblige. My self Surendra Dharkar at present residing in Mumbai. Long back we have migrated to Gujarat, so we dont have any idea I want to know complet history about our DHARKAR Community or family. Pl help us to get complete detail about DHARKAR FAMILY. You can reach on my mail id. smdharkar@gmail.com. Warm Regd, Surendra Dharkar

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  87. hi pls we desparately want to know our kuldaivat of karnik family ..pls pls reply

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  88. I would appreciate any information where exactly the "Amba-Nimba Devci" temple is there?

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    1. To correct you, its Amba-Limba devi. The temple is in Nagaon (between Revdanda and Nagaon) in Konkan. The temple is maintained by one Chitnis family and the gate reads name as "Dakshinamukhi Devsthan"

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    2. The exact location of the temple is http://wikimapia.org/19248014/Dakshinabhimukhi-Devi-Temple#/photo/2673895

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  89. Dear Sir/Mam, If some one can help me to get complete detail on my DHARKAR cast I will be higly oblige. Since last three months I have requested for the same but non of us has replied. My self Surendra Dharkar at present residing in Mumbai. Long back we have migrated to Gujarat, so we dont have any idea I want to know complet history about our DHARKAR Community or family. Pl help us to get complete detail about DHARKAR FAMILY. You can reach on my mail id. smdharkar@gmail.com. Warm Regd, Surendra Dharkar

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  90. Dear Sir/Madam,
    I would like to know kuldevata of Tamhane. My late grand father Gopal Shankar Tamhane was a resident of Gangapuri area in Wai, Satara, Maharashtra. Could anyone please help me out with this? Thanks in advance.

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  91. Dear Sir/Mam,
    If someone can help me to get gotra, Kuldaivat and Kuldevata of Daptardar Family

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  92. I am aware that PAHIRAI is the Kuldevi of the MOHILE clan. But who is the KULDEV? Please...

    Dhananjay Mohile

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  93. I would like to know the kuldevi and kuldevi of Gupte family. Gotra is kashyap.

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  94. Hi can I know the Kuldevi of Kulkarni family kashyap gotra

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    1. Bhagvati mata
      Mukhya sthan Nepal madhe
      Chaul la hi ek sthan ahe.

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  95. Any idea where Dixits are from ?

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  97. Hi can I know the Kuldevi of Pradhan family kashyap gotra

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    1. Malai mata
      Known as vinzai too
      Malai Mata from vangni
      Hirdas mava

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  98. CKP also migrated from Magadh ( Central Bihar) as narrated by Prabodh Thakre ( father of Bala Saheb thakre) in his bibliography. During Ajat Shatru & Bimbisar period whose capital was Rajgriha ( Magadh). CKP migrated from Magadh to Bhopal then Chittor further to Mandu ( Dhar) and finally to Maharastra.

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  99. Sir, namaskar. I rajendra vijaykumar patankar, CKP, would like to request you that we are worshiping Ekvira (Karla)and Khandoba of Jejuri pune. One person told that Khandoba of Jejuri and Ekvira of Karla are not appropriate. pl guide me. 04 04 2018

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  101. Ancient name of Swat Valley was Suvastu as mentioned in Rigveda. Kayastha were inhabitants of kasmir/Srinagar and kabul/kamboja kingdom. Lalitaditya was kayastha and king jaipal hindu shahi ruler was kayastha,,Srivastava kayastha of north india derive name from suvastu valley..

    Chandraseniya kayastha prabhu were originally inhabitants of kabul/gandhar and due to muslims invasion they moved to Malwa then to maharastra and gujarat, other group moved to farrukahabd, ujjhani and kampilya in uttar pradesh,, later who adopted surname of saksena.

    kuldevi of ckp is ekvira and saksena is shakambari.

    They are blood brothers

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  102. Hello,Myself Abhijit Kotwal, our Gotra is Develacharya, our origin is Dhuru-kotwal. Wanted to know our kuldevi details. Please help.

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  103. I want to know, what is the percentage of our population in whole world? Will anyone will be able to figure out for me as on today i.e. 08 August 2018?

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  104. Our population please in percentage in the whole world?

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  105. Hello, I come from a Karnik family, bhargav gotra. I wanted to know my kuldevi and kuldevata. My great great great grandfather was Malharrao Narayan Karnik.

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  106. Adhar Tamhane

    I'm trying to locate my village. my grandfather lived in Baroda. but my dad says we are from some place in Ratnagiri ... can some one please help

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